Saturday, April 30, 2011

MI5: Paul Kagame Harassing Rwandan Diaspora

On the Royal wedding day the independent informs it's readers in the UK and beyond that:

"MI5 has warned the Rwandan high commissioner to Britain to halt an alleged campaign of harassment against suspected critics of his country's government based in the UK.

Ernest Rwamucyo, who is due to attend today's royal wedding as Rwanda's envoy to London, was told by the Security Service that the UK's £83m aid to Rwanda could be cut unless the secret activities against members of the diaspora were halted. Expatriates claim that they have been threatened and intimidated by diplomatic officials."
Intimidation and defamation campaings against Rwandan citizens at home and abroad have consistently been used by Paul Kagame's regime.

The most telling examples in the US are the ridiculous allegations by the Rwandan ambassador in 2008 in the US that Paul Rusesabagina and US Senator from Texas, Robert Krueger, had bought weapons in South Africa for some rebel movement in the Congolese bush to fight the regime in Kigali. Allegations that have never been substantiated.

Another example from the US are the false allegations against Leopold Munyakazi last year:

"It seems pretty clear that the current charges against Munyakazi are the result of the Delaware speech, which angered the Rwandan government. Soon afterwards, Rwanda issued an indictment charging that Munyakazi aided and abetted genocide. The charges were clearly politically motivated, and almost certainly spurious. Rwanda expert Alison Des Forges, of Human Rights Watch, has reviewed the indictment and publicly expressed her doubts about its merits. She points out that the professor had been held for five years without being tried or even charged, which suggests that the government lacked evidence of his participation in the genocide. After his release, he then obtained a position at a public university in Kigali, and so was hardly "hiding out in the bush" trying to evade justice. And, indeed, the U.S. government apparently had no interest in responding to Rwanda's demand that Munyakazi be extradited to stand trial."

In that context of false allegations and smear campaings by Paul Kagame against Rwandans abroad Cristina Griffin claims that the case against Lazare Kobagay is this simple:
"It is a case about how he lied, and lied, and lied again, about one of the worst atrocities in world history,"
Who, Christina Griffin, was lying in the case against Robert Krueger? It was Ambassador Kimonyo! Who was behind the false allegations against Leopold Munyakazi? The Rwanda prosecutor general.

Kimonyo, of whom Alec J. Ross, a close coworker of Hillary Clinton at the State Department, tweeted recently that he represents Paul Kagame so well, has since not provided a single shred of valuable evidence against either Robert Krueger or Paul Rusesabagina.

U.S. Senior District Judge Monti Belot told jurors in the Lazare Kobagaya case that this case, more than others he has presided over, will weigh heavily on witness testimony:
"Your principle duty is going to be to listen to the witnesses and weigh their testimony"
Ignoring the consistent pattern of intimidation and defamation by the current Rwandan regime, of Rwandans and critics abroad won't add to the credibility and quality of the verdict in this case. Christina Griffin oversimplifications of the issues at stake in this case is frightening.

If any Rwandan has to stand trial in the US for lying, it's Ambassador Kimonyo for his false allegations against a respected Senator: Robert Krueger. The least the US should have done was to give him a 24 hours notice to get his bags and catch the next flight to Kigali. Subsequently making sure Paul Kagame himself recorded his apologies both to the US and to Senator Robert Krueger personally for these false allegations. Instead we are reading Alec J. Ross claim that Paul Kagame is well represented in Washington by his ambassador Kimonyo.

Tuesday, April 26, 2011

Charlatans Eating Of A Rotten Corps: Linda Melvern And Stephen Kinzer

Linda Melvern at a meeting about Genocide Denial and Reconciliation in Rwanda (organized by Rwandan ambassador Kimonyo?) makes three claims that are distortions of the ongoing debate on the Rwandan genocide:

  • First, she claims that the downing of Rwandan President Habyarimana's plane with unboard also Burundian President Cyprien Ntaryamira is the foundation stone for the defense at the ICTR.
  • Then she claims that at the ICTR defense lawyers say that: "the victims brough the genocide upon themselves".
Let's for a second assume that Peter Erlinder's piece: "No Conspiracy, No Genocide Planning.... No Genocide?" can be considered representing the central argument of the defense Lawyers at the ICTR:

"The Court specifically found that the actions of Rwandan military leaders, both before and after the April 6, 1994, assassination of former-Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarima ('sic'--he was the seated head of state at the time of his murder--nb), were consistent with war-time conditions and the massive chaos brought about by the four-year war of invasion from Uganda by Gen. Paul Kagame's RPF army, which seized power in July 1994."

I challenge Linda Melvern to find a quote by Peter Erlinder or some other defense lawyer at the ICTR that claims that the victims of the Rwandan genocide brought it upon themselves.

Those who defend the RPF in the west have with great zeal tried to create the false impression that the RPF rushed in to halt the genocide in 1994. Leaving out the essential context or trying to twist it in favor of current Rwandan president Paul Kagame, as Stephen Kinzer does here:
Stephen Kinzer wrote at the end of march:

"The insurgency in Rwanda was an effort by members of an exiled communal group, the Tutsi, to make an “armed return’’ to a country from which the Hutu majority had expelled it. Unlike the ragtag bands of Libyans the West amorphously describes as “rebels,’’ the Tutsi army was one of the most disciplined insurgent forces ever seen in Africa. It had a clear leadership, headed by the visionary Paul Kagame, who today is president of Rwanda.

Kagame was a well-known figure who was in constant contact with United Nations officers and foreign leaders. Many came to admire him, and few feared what might happen in Rwanda if he took power. In Libya, it is impossible to predict what kind of a regime, if any, might emerge to replace the current tyranny. The possibility that Libya will become another Somalia, fragmented among its 140 tribes and a base for crime and terror, is vividly real.

It's interesting how Stephen Kinzer claims that Kagame was a well-known figure in the west during the 90-94 war that led to the genocide in Rwanda. Can anyone point to an article that supports this view?

The distortions and misrepresentation of the basics will inevitably lead to a "demasque". People like Linda Melvern and Stephen Kinzer will be unmasked for what they really are: charlatans eating of a rotting corps: the rwandan genocide.

Monday, April 25, 2011

Rwanda and the Pentagon's Predator Drones

KPFA Weekend News, 04.23.2011:
KPFA Weekend News Host: The prevailing narrative  of the 1994 Rwanda Genocide is that extremist Hutus massacred 800,000 or more Rwandan Tutsi and moderate Hutu, who tried to protect them. But, many scholars, journalists, and human rights investigators now argue that both Tutsi and Hutu massacred one another because of their ethnicity.
The truth is now more and more significant for all Africa, as NATO wages war in Libya, and U.S. policy lobbyists promote a proposal to use Predator Drones to "stop genocide," specifically to stop the next Rwanda or Darfur from happening elsewhere in Africa, such as Libya or Sudan. KPFA's Ann Garrison spoke to a Rwandan American legal scholar and a Rwandan Genocide survivor about the Rwandan massacres of 1994.

Etienne Tshisekedi


Thursday, April 21, 2011

Let's All Get On Our Knees And Pray To Rwanda's Saviour Paul Kagame

Let's face it, without him, where would Rwanda be? Thanks to his leadership Rwanda is making great progress. Rwanda has come from way behind, but thanks to this great african leader, Rwanda is making progress. Let's all join togheter, get on our knees and say a prayer for Paul Kagame, who has demonstrated such great leadership!

Let us all, from small children to the elderly in oldfolks homes across the US, send a tweet in reconnaissance and admiration for the saviour and lord of this tiny and beautiful country in the heart of Africa.

Let's all follow the example of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's Senior Advisor for Innovation who knows when to give credit, when credit is due and wrote today:
"@PaulKagame I had a positive, productive visit with Ambassador Kimonyo today. You are well-represented in Washington."

Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Harvey Milk Would Stand with All Ugandans Now

San Francisco City and County Supervisor Harvey Milk,
the first openly gay elected official in the United States,
was a champion of all human rights.
Last week, as Ugandans were arrested, tear gassed, and even shot dead protesting soaring fuel and food prices, I wrote "Tear gas and arrests; Birth of a Ugandan civil rights movement?" I called opposition leader Anne Mugisha for KPFA and AfrobeatRadio News, and published the radio archive with the headline "Ugandans Walk in the Footsteps of Gandhi and King."   Harvey Milk, as portrayed here, in "The Life of Harvey Milk: In the Footsteps of Gandhi and King," would stand not only with Sexual Minorities Uganda, embattled by Uganda's proposed Anti-Homosexuality Act, a.k.a, Hang-the-Gays Bill, but with all Ugandans now.

Maybe We Could Take A Long Walk2Work?

Monday, April 18, 2011

Rwanda Genocide: Tutsi, Hutu, and Twa

Rwanda, 1994.

AfrobeatRadio Host Wuyi Jacobs: WBAI, 99.5FM and you're listening to AfrobeatRadio. Now we have a special report by Ann Garrison on the anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide.

Ann Garrison: Wednesday, April 6th, was the 17 year anniversary of the plane crash in Kigali, Rwanda, that triggered the tragic violence the world came to know as the Rwanda Genocide after it had claimed close to a million Rwandan lives, perhaps even more. We at AfrobeatRadio want to turn our hearts and our thoughts to the Rwandan Tutsi, Hutu, and Twa families and individuals who suffered and lost loved ones in 1994. This week we spoke to Charles Kambanda, a Rwandan American legal scholar, and professor at St. John's University in New York City, formerly a professor at several East African universities. He was once a member of the ruling Rwandan Patriotic Front, but became disillusioned with President Paul Kagame and left Rwanda in 2005.

Ann Garrison: Professor Kambanda, most people outside Rwanda know the story through the Hollywood movie Hotel Rwanda. Could you tell us how the movie corresponds and how it departs from what really happened?

Charles Kambanda: Yes, most people who know the Rwandan story from the movie will certainly not be able to situate it within the entire history of the Rwandan conflict. The Rwandan conflict goes back before colonial times; it goes back before independence. These two peoples have failed to share power. They have failed to create a framework for power sharing. Whoever is in power wants to take it all. And this is where we have the genocide. Each side was killing the other because they wanted to eliminate them. And actually, it was also a military tactic. The Hutu were eliminating the Tutsi because they didn't want the Tutsi to support their fellow Tutsi who were fighting the government. The Tutsi on their side were killing the Hutu because they didn't want the Hutu in their territory to cross over and join the Hutu government.


Saturday, April 16, 2011

Ron Paul And Why It's Better To Ask Some Of The Questions...

"It's better to ask some of the questions then to have all the answers" , great wisdom from the scottie who knew too much by James Thurber and read by Keith Olbermann in his last edition of count down.

Friday, April 15, 2011

Crowdsourcing The Great Lakes Region?: #BCRchat

Sunday evening from 7PM CEST (Brussels), which is 1PM EDT (Baltimore) our secon #BCRchat will take place. An opportunity for everyone interested in the great lakes region to connect, share links to great content and discuss whatever topic generates buzz at that particular time. For the upcoming #BCRchat I have sofar collected the following topic suggestions:

  • General Gahima and his activism against kagame; will he be taken seriously or seen as renegade?
with a link for those who want some context on Gahima. Probably related is the story by Jambonew on Ibuka and the genocide commemoration in Belgium.

  • Plausible consequences of the maghreb’s spring ?
  • Rwanda announced transition towards 'self policing' media. Not convinced yet - I'd like to hear more on it
  • Raccoons (in Burundi)
  • Is trade better than aid and how do you start the trade ball rolling in an area of instability?
  • Learn from@paulkagame
  • Political opposition & elections in DRC
Article by Pole institute on Rutshuru and FDLR.
  • Bana Congo's activism against Congolese musicians in Europe
Read about Tshala Muana's tour in South Africa " Tshala Muana, Meje 30 et le groupe Dynastie Mutuashi" after her remarks against Bana Congo last month.

Monday, April 11, 2011

Tear Gas and Arrests: Birth of a Ugandan Civil Rights Movement?

Kampala - 04.11.2010 -

Ugandan opposition leader Dr. Kizza Besigye was arrested while walking to work in Kampala, the country's capitol, this Monday morning, as part of a Walk to Work protest of the rising cost of fuel and consequent rise in the cost of living.
Norbert Mao, another of the leading presidential candidates in Uganda's February election, was also arrested walking to work in Kampala.
Both have been released, and Besigye has been charged with inciting violence. He has since told Uganda's National Monitor that he is willing to die to restore sanity to Ugandan governance, including civil liberties for all citizens.

Read more:

Sunday, April 10, 2011

Paul Kagame Discussing Victoire Ingabire On Twitter

P Kuiper @pkuiper, member of the Humanist Peace Council in the Netherlands exchanged views on @victoireumuhoza's case with @paulkagame

Saturday, April 9, 2011

Lazare Kobagaya In Eye Of The Great Lakes Moral Universe

Mother Jones reporter Mac Mclelland is heading to Congo for a story that
"is violent and fascinating and has implications that reach back to the United States; that it explores much-needed information about global foreign policy".
It obviously does not need rocket science to understand that the story of the great lakes wars will eventually have far reaching consequences. In preparation for her Congo trip Mac Mclelland spent some quality time with Chief Prosecutor at the International Criminal Tribunal in the Hague: Luis Moreno-Ocampo.

Ever since the media savvy Paul Kagame had to leave Oklahoma Christian University through the back door, because three lawyers filed a lawsuite against him, the regime in Kigali is doing all it can to make sure Lazare Kobagaya is convicted. The Lawyer defending Lazare Kobagaya, Kurt Kerns (one of the three lawyers), crisscrossed africa to find witnesses that can prove 83-year-old Lazare Kobagaya from Kansas did not participate in mass killings during the genocide in Rwanda and that he is falsely being accused by Kagame's regime. Kurt Kerns traveled to Kigali to defend Peter Erlinder at the end of may 2010.

Stephen J. Rapp visited Kigali last week in the run up to Kobagaya's trial next month which was eagerly reported by Rwandan blogger @annoncyy yesterday:
"Kobagaya’s trial on Genocide charges is scheduled to open next month, the first Genocide case to be tried in the US."
Last month Eli Rosenbaum, Director of Human Rights and Special Prosecutions Section Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice, spoke about Lazare Kobagaya and Rwanda. Eugenie Mukeshimana, a staffer at Rwanda Consulting and member of the leadership team at the Genocide Survivors support network attended that meeting. Sofar I have not found a transcript of what was said there.

Eugenie Mukeshimana coordinated the april 7th Rwandan genocide commemoration in Newyork 2010 at which the keynote speaker, Mr. Edouard Kayihura, who sought refuge at the Hotel Des Mille Collines, depicted in the movie ‘Hotel Rwanda’, shared his experiences. The New Times writes:
"In his address, he questioned the heroic actions of the main character in the movie, Paul Rusesabagina, suggesting that the real story is far different from the movie itself."
In the same, previously mentioned blogpost, Rwandan blogger @annoncyy also writes
"The US Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues, Stephen J. Rapp, has said that his country will continue to facilitate Rwanda in bringing to book Genocide suspects and those financing the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda militia."
"Both officials confirmed that among the subjects discussed was Paul Rusesabagina, who is accused of financing the FDLR."
Let me remind Stephen J. Rapp that previous false allegations concerning Paul Rusesabagina and Senator Robert Krueger of sending weapons to the FDLR have never been substantiated. Does Stephen J. Rapp actually grasp the terrifying meaning of Martin Luther King's often repeated expression:
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice"?

Thursday, April 7, 2011

Watch out, Great Lakes Bloggers. . .

Computer World, an International Data Group (idg) tech publication,  reports that Kagame's Rwanda is recruiting hackers in Kenya to take down websites hostile to his regime.

Rwanda claimed to be recruiting hackers

Dennis Mbuvi
07.04.2011 kl 14:23 | CIO East Africa
According to information posted at Security Forum, the regions premier security mailing list, Rwanda security forces are in Kenya on a hacker recruiting mission. The information says that Rwanda is seeking security professionals to bring down various foreign websites that hold information not 'friendly' to the Rwandan government.

Read more at:

Hate Speech: An Argument for Genocide, in the OpEdNews???

"Rwandans so poor to be sterilized"
Photo illustrating legal scholar Charles Kambanda's essay,
"Why sterilize the poor?"
Reading the OpEdNews, which the Wikipedia defines as United States-based progressive/liberal newsactivism, and opinion website, on 04.06.2011, the 17th anniversary of the Rwanda Genocide, I came across some deeply dangerous, ethnic hate speech demonizing East/Central African Hutu people, in a piece of writing titled "Rwanda, a Light for the World."  

This piece of writing had already been promoted to the site's #3 headline, risen to #39 on the list of most viewed posts, and been reposted to Facebook four times. 

Its appearance, on a website that would never tolerate such talk of African Americans, Native Americans, or any other American ethnic group, demonstrates how widely accepted the official version of the Rwanda Genocide history, that Hutu extremists killed 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus in 100 days, is----and, how widely accepted the consequent demonization and/or dehumanization of East/ Central African Hutu people is.   In order for this to be published in the liberal, "progressive" OpEdNews, an OpEdNews editor had to approve it.

Most ethnic hate speech is based on inaccurate information, but even if the official version of the Rwanda Genocide history were accurate, it could not possibly justify this wholesale demonization of Hutu people, which comes very close to an overt argument for genocide and/or, one form of genocide--- the Kagame regime's plan to sterilize 700,000 adult Rwandan males, which legal scholar Charles Kambanda so eloquently deconstructs in "Rwanda: Why Sterilize the Poor?"   (The majority of Rwandans are Hutu, and, very poor.)

Specifically, the author, Olga Bonfiglio, writes:

"Mass migrations have taken place since 1959 when Tutsi refugees spilled into the neighboring countries of Burundi, Congo, Uganda and Tanzania because Hutu regimes preached hate and discrimination. President Paul Kagame, who led the rebel army against the Hutu government in 1994 and subsequently quelled the 100-day genocide, was among those Tutsi families who fled to Uganda.

Since the Tutsi takeover of government, 3 million Hutu have left the country, some of them still lusting after Tutsi blood. This massive dislocation of the population is unsettling for Rwandans as well as for their neighbors who are forced to host refugees they don't want. Meanwhile, Rwanda remains one of the poorest, most densely-populated countries in the world with scarce resources to boot."

Even as she claims to be praising Rwanda a model for ethnic reconciliation, Bonfiglio sounds as though she would really like to exterminate---e.g., by sterilization---this Hutu refugee population which is "still lusting after Tutsi blood," and such a burden, not only to neighboring countries who don't want them, but also to Rwanda, which is already so poor and overpopulated without them.

Rwandan President
Paul Kagame
Best I can say is that Bonfiglio at least acknowledges that there was a Tutsi takeover of the Rwandan government in 1994, a reality that Rwandan President Paul Kagame and most of his other propagandists are still trying to deny, claiming that they have instead abolished ethnic identification and privilege based on ethnic identification.   

Bonfiglio seems strangely unable to perceive the contradictions between:

1)  Her claim, like theirs, that Rwanda is "the light of the world," a model of reconciliation, and, 

2)  Her acknowledgment of an ethnic Tutsi takeover, and, 

3)  Her hate speech demonizing and dehumanizing Hutu people as so many have since the Tutsi, Rwandan Patriotic Front victory in the Rwandan Civil War of 1990-1994

For alternative accounts of the violence known as the Rwanda Genocide, argued from evidence, listen to Prof. Peter Erlinder Speaks on Rwanda Genocide, on, and/or Michel Chussodovsky's Rwanda: Installing a US Protectorate in Central Africa, on Global Research.

Tuesday, April 5, 2011

Writing The Congo Narrative Together

The first #BCRchat discussing Burundi, Congo and Rwanda made me aware of the campaign to pressure Obama to nominate a #specialenvoy to Congo that started yesterday.

On March 2, 2001, on Capitol Hill, in the House of the Representatives, the African Great Lakes Advocacy Coalition held a congressional briefing for Members of the Senate and House and their staffs in order to raise the profile of the UN Mapping Report exercise released on October 1, 2010. If you consider the role Susan Rice played at the time, this request sounds quite interesting:

"Call on President Obama to instruct Ambassador Susan Rice to make the UN Mapping Exercise Report a priority and address its recommendations."
Maurice Carney, co-founder and executive director of Friends of the Congo, said to finalcall:
“The very fact that the briefing was held on Capitol Hill, in and of itself, made the event a success. The UN has been suppressing reports on the atrocities in the Congo as far back as 1997. This latest report is very volatile, if you are on the other side of it,”
(in reference to U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice and her refusal to comment on it).

Adam Hochschild in reviewing Jason Stearns's book "Dancing in the glory of monsters" writes:
"Not so the United States. It has supported Kagame for years, contributing indirectly to Congo’s suffering. How this media-savvy autocrat has managed to convince so many American journalists, diplomats and political leaders that he is a great statesman is worth a book in itself."
A quote similar to what former US ambassador to Burundi, Senator Robert Krueger, once said :
"How U.S. military leaders had become so enamored of Paul Kagame I could not fully fathom....I was appalled that these skills had so successfully overshadowed his obvious preference for dictatorship over democracy, and his tolerance, or perhaps appetite, for vengeful ethnic slaugheter, yet he was invited to the United States to be feted at the Pentagon. In time, I was sure that the truth about the RPA would come out. But how many lives would be lost, how much suffering endured, how much fear and despair would be borne in the interim?"
Gaspard Musabyimana thinks it's the RPF Myth that did it.

Yesterday I watched Luis Moreno-Ocampo and the prosecution of several Congolese warlords. Nkunda is still under hous arrest in Rwanda. Luis Moreno Ocampo made a very interesting comment on how he sees the role of the ICC in the region. He thinks these prosecutions are contributing to "change", wish I could find the exact quote.

When we take these different strands together we are seeing a very interesting narrative in the making!

Saturday, April 2, 2011

What Is #BCRchat Twitter Chat?

Anyone interested in a twitter chat on Burundi, Congo and Rwanda can join us sunday afternoon at 5PM EDT 11PM CEST .

Suggested topics sofar

1) President Obama should appoint a special envoy #SpecialEnvoy ( a campaign starts monday writes Monique Beadle:
@moniquebeadle: MONDAY ... A global call for #freeandfair elections in #Congo and a #SpecialEnvoy to Great Lakes
2) Security sector reform
3) Conflict minerals

4) Prof. Lambert's disappearance and incarceration in Rwanda

5) so how FDLR shapes or has shaped Rwandan politics? #BCRchat

6) Earthquake in Burundi, read report on quaketracker

7) how much longer will the U.S & UK keep supporting the regime in Kigali?

8) Transitional Justice and impunity in Burundi.

9) Measles epidemic in Congo

10) book release Dancing in the glory of monsters by Jason Stearns

11) Kinshasa recalling ambassador to Brazzaville

Don't hesitate to suggest a topic and write it down below or send a tweet with hashtag #BCRchat

Friday, April 1, 2011

Grensarbeid: Studiedag 10 Mei Universiteit Antwerpen

Europese jurisprudentie is constant in ontwikkeling op het gebied van immigratie. Een conferentie over dit thema aan de Universiteit van Antwerpen op 10 mei 2011 belooft interessant te worden:
"De centrale vraag is hoe sociale en fiscale regels in een tewerkstellingssituatie die grensoverschrijdend is tussen België en Nederland op elkaar inspelen of eventueel met elkaar in conflict komen. Leidt de toepassing van de regels inzake de vaststelling van de toepasselijke wetgeving in het socialezekerheidsrecht, het arbeidsrecht en het fiscaal recht tot een coherente juridische situatie of juist niet?"

Zou ook het Europese burgerschap hierbij weer een centrale rol gaan opeisen, zoals sinds 2001 met de regelmaat van de klok, en recent nog in de Ruiz Zambrano uitspraak?:

“Union citizenship is destined to be the fundamental status of nationals of the member states”

Gerd Leers geeft inmiddels weer blijk van de tunnelvisie in zijn interpretatie van het Ruiz Zambrano arrest. Kennelijk is de IND niet bereid te leren van de heldere uitspraak van het hof. De stelling van Gerd Leers dat er maar zeer weinig vergelijkbare gevallen zouden zijn (kennelijk het enige argument wat men nog kan bedenken om de keihard tik op te vingers van het Hof te verzachten) is vooral een selffulfilling prophecy die volledig afhangt van de interpretatie van het arrest.

Gerd Leers' voorlopige interpretatie in zijn brief aan de Tweede Kamer (op de uitbrander van het Hof van Luxemburg:
"As the Court has stated several times, citizenship of the Union is intended to be the fundamental status of nationals of the Member States"
doet me denken aan het antwoord van Percy Wetmore aan de gevangenis direkteur Hal in de film The Green Mile:
(Hal: Percy. Something to say?)
Percy Wetmore: I didn't know the sponge was supposed to be wet.
(Hal: How many years you spend pissing on a toilet seat before someone told you to put it up?)